Women in Leadership/Ministry

 

I have given this issue much thought and this is the summary of my research and what I believe is the basis for Women to serve in leadership and ministry.

I would love to hear your thoughts.

There are a number of instances where women were given significant roles in the Bible. The most striking is Deborah who held the two highest offices in Israel, judge and prophet. She had authority over lands, armies of men and affairs of state.

Genesis 1:27 reflects the nature of God in both the masculine and feminine. We need both genders to be heard in order to have the wholeness of God’s character. This is re-affirmed in 1 Corinthians 11:11.

In the New Testament are references to women teaching (Acts 18:26), praying and prophesying (Acts 21:9, 1 Cor 11:5, Luke 2:36-38) in public settings. Euodia and Syntyche, Priscilla and Aquila, Phoebe and Junias (Romans 16:1-16, Phil 4:2-3) were all commended for there leadership roles by Paul. Joel 2:22 speaks of women prophesying, and Peter re-affirms this in Acts 2:17-18. Galatians 3:28 says that there is neither male nor female in the context of inheritance related to the Abrahamic Covenant which includes dominion and authority (Gen 12:1-3, 15:18-21). We also see the heart of God in the way Jesus treated women, specifically Mary Magdalene.

“What about 1st Corinthians 14, and 1st Timothy 2?”

The bible cannot contradict itself and must interpret itself. Those facts alone make it difficult to say those two passages are for all people for all time. The weight of scripture showing women in leadership in a positive light seams to be overwhelming. How can Paul commend women for their leadership in Romans and Philippians then say no woman can ever be in leadership in 1st Corinthians and 1st Timothy?

“If these are not for us then why are they in the scripture?”

The context of these two passages is order. Paul is illustrating that we serve a God of order and these two churches were not operating accordingly. Additionally Paul illustrates that we should be a witness to the community (1 Corinthians 9:19-23). Women were not permitted to be in leadership in the community and were largely uneducated. Those two cultural facts do not exist today.

No one should be placed in authority simply because of gender, except where the bible specifically defines gender roles for the purpose of order, as in the home (Ephesians 5:22), or practicality (Titus 2:4). Men and women should be held to the same standards regarding ministry and leadership (1 Timothy 3, Titus 1, 1 Peter 5).

Posted by Gary in Practical

Don’t Serve the Problem

I get Kenneth Copeland’s “From Faith to Faith” email everyday. It’s usually very timely because it is the word of God and it applies to our lives. This one came this morning. I have been thinking about the fact that what we feed will grow. If we feed our frustration that will grow. If we feed on His faithfulness as Psalm 37:3 says that will grow. Kenneth says it so well check it out below and go to the KCM.org website and subscribe to this service you will be blessed.

Jul 31 – Don’t Serve the Problem

“Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him.”
(Isaiah 55:7)


Dear Gary,
You can’t win a victory as long as the problem is the biggest thing in your life!
The Lord woke me up to that fact a few years ago. At that time I was facing some difficulties in my ministry that seemed so big to me, I thought about them from morning till night. Even though I was standing against them, I was thinking more about those problems than about the scripture promises I was standing on.
Then I saw something in Matthew 6:24-25:
“Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life.”
I’d read that scripture hundreds of times, but that day I saw something I’d never noticed before. I saw that immediately after Jesus said, “No man can serve two masters,” He said, “Take no thought.” Suddenly it hit me: We serve our thoughts!
That’s why Isaiah 55 says for us to forsake our thoughts, and by the Word, take God’s thoughts. That’s why 2 Corinthians 10:5 says to cast out thoughts that challenge the Word and bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
Do you want deliverance from your problems today?
Then quit serving them! Quit allowing them to consume your thought life. And don’t wait until circumstances change to do it. Instead, realize that circumstances won’t ever change until you switch from wrong to right thinking.
I know that’s not easy to do, especially in the midst of heavy darkness and trial. But you can do it if you’ll do these three things:
First, remember you aren’t alone. You have the Word (God’s thoughts). You have the Holy Spirit to strengthen you and you have the mind of Christ.
Second, get around people who are full of faith. Instead of rehearsing your problem, let them do the talking. Make yourself listen. Join in with their faith and resist darkness.
Third, praise God. Do whatever it takes to make yourself praise. When you begin to praise, God’s presence will turn back those worried thoughts and make them fall!
Your problems are not the biggest thing in your life. Jesus is. Serve Him with your thoughts and He will set you free! 


Scripture Study: Isaiah 55 

kcm.org July 31st Daily Devotional

Posted by Gary in Faith

Random Thoughts

If you will indulge me for a moment this is the purpose of this space. To process thoughts.

We are in the final stages of producing “Rescued” John’s fiction work in audio theatre. It has been brought up that one of the characters didn’t say the words of repentance in the moments before she died and yet she goes to heaven in the end. The worry is that we are going lightly on her sin and we are portraying something that is not scriptural.

Why have we as evangelicals placed so much emphasis on “praying the prayer” or saying the right “words”? Are words magical? Can we miss heaven by not saying the right “words”? Is God really concerned about the right verbiage?

Jesus never taught us to pray a specific prayer for salvation. He always talked about the condition of the heart. As a matter of fact the bible talks about saying the right things and having a heart that is far from God in Isaiah.

I know a number of people who can’t point to a specific date and place that they came into relationship with God. I can promise you however that they are walking with God. The fruit is nice and sweet.

What happened that we are so concerned about words and appearances, I’m not talking about judging fruit, just what things look like. Now see I already hear some of you going literal on me. “we should avoid the perception of impropriety”. That is not what I am talking about. We are so concerned about what people will say or what our actions may look like that we don’t repent, we don’t speak the truth in love.

I have told many people not to ever sacrifice my future on the alter of my feelings. Why are we so concerned with how someone may feel today rather than where they will spend eternity or even how they will spend the rest of their lives. Would you rather have someone not speak the truth in love to point out that your thinking or your actions may be flawed and have you damage other relationships and not be able to live a fruitful life?

We must first examine the log in our own eye so that we can speak the truth in love when it is necessary without our own logs getting in the way. Jesus never spared someone’s feelings. Think of the rich young ruler, the Syro-Phoenician woman in Luke 7, what about Peter? “get thee behind me satan”. The enemy has crippled us with worrying about how imperfect we are and rendering us impotent at speaking the truth in love.

Examine the log in your eye and deal with it and then get with God and walk in His love so we can speak the truth when needed. Let’s not be so concerned with the right word or appearance and start being concerned with eternity.

What do you think?

Posted by Gary in Practical

I have great kids!

A couple of weeks ago Hayden asked if he could get his lip pierced.

Not wanting him to be restrained by the law but instead freed by the law. I did a bunch of research and told him to read it all and we would talk about it.

He read it and got very encouraged and began to believe that I was going to say yes. Actually I almost did. There was something however that just didn’t sit well with me and I wasn’t sure what it was other than the obvious. I guess what it came down to for me was it starts down a road that I don’t like the end of and he’s only 14.

When I told him what my decision was he argued a little and then left the room very disappointed. About 5 minutes later he came back in and said. “Dad I had made up my mind that whatever you said I would be ok with and I wasn’t. Will you forgive me?”.

I almost cried. What else can you ask for from your kids? No he’s not perfect but in the words of “Alabama” close enough to perfect for me”.

People say to me all the time “you are such a great dad, look at your kids.” I would like to think that Kim and I have done some things right, however I know we have failed in many areas, I see the hand of God all over both of our boys.

Thank you to everyone who has been a Godly example in there lives they are the way they are partially because of you. I am so blessed to have the kids I have and the friends that I have.

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Townhall.com::Straight Thinking 101::By Walter E. Williams

 We have been going through the truth project in our small group and absolutely loving it. In the very first session Dr. Tackett talks about assumptive language which is designed to be accepted without debate.

When I ran across this article by Dr Williams. I think he says it pretty well. Enjoy

Straight Thinking 101
By Walter E. Williams
Wednesday, June 27, 2007

Just about the most difficult lesson for first-year economics students, and sometimes graduate students, is that economic theory, and for that matter any scientific theory, is positive or non-normative. You might ask, “What’s this business about positive and normative?” It’s easy. Positive statements deal with what was, what is or what will be. Normative, or subjective, statements deal with what’s good or bad, or what ought to be or should be. Confusing the two leads to considerable mischief.

The statement “Scientists cannot split the atom” is a positive statement. Why? If there’s disagreement with the statement, there are facts to which we can appeal to settle the disagreement — just visit Stanford University’s linear accelerator and watch atoms being split. The statement “Scientists shouldn’t split the atom” is a normative statement. Why? There are no facts whatsoever to which we can appeal to settle any disagreement. One person’s opinion on the matter is just as good as another’s.

How about the statement “Gasoline prices are unreasonable”? If some think they’re reasonable while others don’t, the argument can go on forever without resolution because there are no facts to which we can appeal to settle the disagreement. However, there are facts that tend to back up the statement: Buyers of gasoline prefer lower prices while sellers prefer higher prices.

By the way, years ago, Mrs. Williams would arrive home complaining about unreasonable grocery prices. After airing her complaints, she’d ask me to unload her car full of groceries. Having completed the chore, I’d ask her whether she was unreasonable, suggesting that it was my opinion that only an unreasonable person would pay unreasonable prices. The conversation never went far in a pleasant direction.

Having explained the difference between positive and normative statements, I tell my students that in no way do I propose that they purge their vocabulary of normative statements. Normative statements are excellent tools for tricking others into doing what you want them to do. I simply caution that in the process of tricking others, there’s no need to trick oneself into believing that one normative statement is better or more righteous than another.

A related term that doesn’t make much economic sense is the term “need.” The implication of an absolute, crying, dying or urgent need is that one cannot do without the need in question. Students sometimes say they absolutely need a car or a cell phone. At that point I ask them, how in the world was it that Gen. George Washington could defeat Britain, the mightiest nation on earth, without a cell phone or a car?

The problem with the term “need” is that it suggests there are no substitutes for the item in question. Thus, people will pay any price for it; however, the law of demand says that at some price, people will take less of something, including none of it. In response, a student might say, “Diabetics can’t do without insulin” or “People can’t do without food.” I say, “Yes, they can; diabetics have been doing without insulin for thousands of years.” In some poor African countries, people do without food. Of course, the results of doing without insulin or food are indeed unpleasant, but the fact that the results are unpleasant doesn’t require us to deny that non-consumption is a substitute for consumption. Again, I tell my students not to purge their vocabulary of crying, dying and urgent needs; just don’t trick yourself while you’re tricking others.

You say, “Williams, it doesn’t sound like economics is a very compassionate science.” You’re right, but neither is physics, chemistry or biology. However, if we wish to be compassionate with our fellow man, we must learn to engage in dispassionate analysis. In other words, thinking with our hearts, rather than our brains, is a surefire method to hurt those whom we wish to help.

Dr. Williams serves on the faculty of George Mason University as John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics and is the author of More Liberty Means Less Government: Our Founders Knew This Well.

Townhall.com::Straight Thinking 101::By Walter E. Williams

Posted by Gary in Practical

A new homeless ministry in SLC « …for such a time as this

 

A new homeless ministry in SLC

GOD STORY OF THE DAY
My sweet Bonnie:)
Fresh food at Pioneer Park
Bonnie’s friends
Sunday we served with one of my best friends, Bonnie, down at Pioneer Park. Three years ago Bonnie started a ministry out of K2 The Church, feeding the homeless fresh food every week. She has about 300-400 people each week and fully relies on God to provide the volunteers, money and food.

Each week there are many people who help. There is no possible way Bonnie can know everyone, because of how this ministry has grown (Good problem).

This Sunday, a gentleman named Porter came. He was very helpful and excited at what he saw.

Porter asked Bonnie what church she is from. After she responded, he said, “Well, I am LDS”. Almost with an “Is this still okay for me to help” tone.If you know Bonnie, you can picture her bubbly and joyful personality saying “It does not matter, we are glad God brought you here to help!”

Porter enthusiastically joined in.

Ten minutes later, Porter asked Bonnie more questions. One question being “Who funds this each week?”

Bonnie replied: “Jesus!”

Porter proceeded to tell Bonnie that he is a bodyguard for President Hinckley. (That would be the Mormon prophet and president, President Hinckley)

Porter and Bonnie stayed in touch and Bonnie has had the opportunity to share with Porter the God-sized dreams she has for ministering to the “Least of these” in Salt Lake. Her most exciting vision in one of a “Homeless Day Center”- a place for homeless people to go during the day to eat, shower, rest and learn.

Well… are you ready for this?

Porter just called Bonnie. He informed her that they (Take a guess on who that is ladies and gentlemen) have a twenty-one thousand square foot building for her to use. They have gotten her a 5 year lease. It will be $1 a month (Yes that is one dollar). IN ADDITION, they have a construction company for her that will renovate it however she wants. (You might want to re-read this paragraph, I know)

THE LORD WHO PROVIDES, is he not? What a MIGHTY GOD we serve! He blesses His people!

I think I may need to rename this blog: “WOW, God, WOW!”

A new homeless ministry in SLC « …for such a time as this

Posted by Gary in Faith

The Church

I have been struck by the unity in the church I saw while in Salt Lake City and what can happen when we all come together for a common purpose.

I believe that now more than ever we need to be kingdom minded. I am more and more convinced that a great move of God is right before our eyes and that God is putting people and resources in place to make it happen.

Pray Colossians 1:9-11 over yourself and make sure that you are in the will of God. you don’t want to miss it.

This clip will get your heart pounding and give you a vision for the global church. 

http://hillsong.com/newsletter/images/video/fullopener.mov

Thanks for the heads up Chuck. I love you.

Posted by Gary in Worship

Salt Lake City Trip

What an amazing experience!

Esther Fleece, remember that name because you will see it again. She is one of the most amazing people you will ever meet. A few months ago she was at our home talking about, among other things, her vision for the Mormon Church. My family and I were members of the Mormon Church in Mesa AZ when I was in the 1st through the 5th grade and was baptized in the temple in Mesa. I don’t remember specifics of the religion other than they were there for us when we really needed them. So I expressed my heart for the church to her at that time.

A few weeks later she called and invited me to go on this trip and I told her I would pray about it. Later I wondered why I needed to pray this was an opportunity I couldn’t pass up. I told her that if we were going to go to tell them they were wrong and we had the answer I wasn’t interested. She told me her heart was to be the aroma of Christ. Now that is something I can get behind!

The trip was so far and above what I expected it honestly humbled and amazed me time after time. On Thursday we spent the day volunteering at the Salt Lake City Dream Center. Pastor Alfred has such a passion to serve the poor and needy, specifically refugees that have come to Salt Lake from the most horrible conditions including slavery and polygamous families. We were blessed to take about 100 of these children to the zoo. In spite of the weather, 50 degrees and raining, we were so blessed. Over 90 languages are represented with roughly half of them Muslim and many do not speak English. In the afternoon we sorted donated clothes and household items. Every week they supply fresh food, clothing, and other necessities to hundreds of people in desperate need. Pastor Alfred said “feed them fresh food and they will come. Anyone can give away canned stuff we only give the best”. He was talking about physical needs but he had that twinkle in his eye that said there was a spiritual parallel. What an amazing privilege.

I was so amazed at the unity in the body of Christ in that city. Everyone was working together to further the Kingdom. To meet physical and spiritual needs. God has the right people there leading these ministries.

On Thursday night we were on our way to a high place above the city to pray when Esther received a phone call telling her that our meeting with the LDS leaders was cancelled. She was not convinced. We had prepared ourselves and God had given us such a unity in the team and a passion to be His aroma that we knew God had other plans. So we prayed until very late believing that He would bring things together. We got up in the morning and prepared for the meeting, you know the one that was cancelled and on our way to the tour of temple square the phone rang again this time saying the meeting was on!

We were met at temple square by Cody, who is in Public Affairs/Relations for the LDS church. I was blessed to really connect with him. He is a very good man. After the tour we were welcomed into the parlor of the Lion House to meet with Dr. Bob Millet (Dean, Professor at BYU), Elder Todd Christofferson, who is in the First Presidency of the 70, three other members of the Public Affairs/Relations team, as well as Rev. Gregory C.V. Johnson, director and two of his team from Standing Together who’s vision is to unite Christians for greater spiritual impact.

It was such an amazing meeting I felt as if we were with old friends. We laughed and talked about where there is common ground without ignoring the major differences in theology. I have never been in such a meeting in my life. What a great God we serve.

On Friday night and Saturday we were privileged to attend The Truth Project, an initiative of Focus on the Family led by Dr. Del Tackett. Dr. Millet attended the conference with us and I was stunned by his desire to sit with our team. I expected him to come Friday out of courtesy and then not come back on Saturday. However he was in his seat waiting for us before every session. I have such a deep love and respect for him.

On Saturday we attended K2 the church and heard a great message entitled “What does God do all day?” and then helped feed the homeless in the park before heading home.

I know that I will be back to Salt Lake City. God has birthed something in me. I’m still working it out but I am confident that God is at work and I don’t want to miss a thing!

Here are some related links:

http://www.k2thechurch.com

http://standingtogether.org

http://www.thetruthproject.org/

http://queenes.wordpress.com/

http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/w/o/wol3/chrisdt1.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Millet

There are some pictures here.

Posted by Gary in Personal

Why does my calling matter?

Psalm 139:16,

Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, when as yet there were none of them.

And Ecclesiastes 3:14 & 15,

I know that whatever God does, it shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him. That which is has already been, and what is to be has already been; and God requires an account of what is past.

John Bevere points out that God has a plan for each individual that fits into Gods overall plan and we will be accountable for seeking Him and walking in obedience to that plan. If we go our own way, even if it’s a good way in our mind, we are walking in disobedience to God’s plan.

We are all called to win souls according to 2 Corinthians 5:18 and any that enter the kingdom because of our efforts either directly, personal witness, or indirectly, supporting evangelistic ministries or serving your church, are credited to our account. However the office of evangelist is different than our personal witness.

If you are called to be an accountant and you chose to be an evangelist, souls that enter the kingdom through those efforts will not be credited to your account. We all fit into the body according to God’s overall purpose (1 Corinthians 12:14-31) and God chooses where each one fits (1 Corinthians 12:18, 28). If you fulfill your calling to be an accountant you will receive credit for all of the souls that enter the kingdom by your indirect equipping of those who are called to be evangelists.

For example: Sarah is called to serve Reinhardt Bohnke and instead chooses to launch her own ministry and wins 3000 souls.

The 3000 will not be credited to her account. If she had served Reinhardt Bohnke her efforts would have increased the effectiveness of his ministry and added 6000 souls to the kingdom and the millions of souls won through that ministry would be credited to her account. Her choosing to go her own way diminishes the effectiveness of Gods overall plan.

Please do what’s necessary to hear the voice of God regarding your calling.

Posted by Gary in Intimacy W/God

Day 4

The fast is going well so far. It’s a wierd feeling to have a full stomach and still feel hungry. We rode 45 minutes last night and I felt strong. My speed was up and I covered more ground, so to speak, than I have so far.

The biggest thing I’m noticing so far is I am so angry. It has always been laying just beneath the surface but I’m really noticing it now. I am mad at the way people drive and mad at the dog and mad at the tv. One of my goals for this fast is that I would find any bitterness in me. I think I’m on that path. I welcome it so I can root it out and be healed.

I am holding out hope for a new bike this year. Hayden wants to ride with us so that means I get a new bike. If he decides he wants to ride more I will get him one and use mine for the trainer. That or I may just get him a Trek 1000. I really want the Specialized Allez Expert. So I keep hoping and dreaming. I have to get through tax season first.

Posted by Gary in Bicycling, Personal