I love this kind of stuff. Makes me think of a certain Valentines day in Torrington WY. when Derrick and Jim wrote a little something like this.
enjoy.
I love this kind of stuff. Makes me think of a certain Valentines day in Torrington WY. when Derrick and Jim wrote a little something like this.
enjoy.
I know what your thinking… “you promised you would be more diligent in posting to this space and all I get are links to what other people have said and random news stories.
I’m sorry. There’s so much going on right now and frankly I’m a bit resistant to talking about it in this space. One of these days the dust will settle and I will be a big blabbermouth again, but for now, I’ll just post things that interest me (it works for Rush).
I have been thinking about this space for a long time however and thinking I should change it from “Random Thoughts” to “Specific Thoughts” at least in terms of content. I don’t think I would call the Blog “Specific Thoughts” that’s a bit lame.
Just when I’m starting to get somewhat comfortable with this medium I’m told that blogging is not cool anymore. I’m on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, what’s next?
Is there anything I’ve said in the past you find particularly interesting? have I said something that would cause you to come back and see what I have to say on that topic on a regular basis? or do you like the fact that you have no idea what you’ll find when you come here?
If you have thoughts I would love to hear them. Maybe you don’t care and are considering deleting my RSS feed. That’s ok too, just let me know.
Cyclist Lance Armstrong confirmed Tuesday that he will be returning to road racing and attempt to win an eighth Tour de France. “I have decided to return to professional cycling in order to raise awareness of the global cancer burden,” Armstrong said in a statement issued by his LiveStrong Foundation. VeloNews reports that he will race with the Astana team, taking no salary or bonuses.
and in the process nailed me.
I am an eternal optimist, sometimes to a fault. I always assume the best and sometimes miss things. Here is what Glenn Packiam had to say about mature believers and “The Shack”
Sorry to imply that I am a “Smart, Mature Christian”. I am simply saying the above describes exactly how I responded to this book. I stand by my previous statements regarding my belief “The Shack” may be a response to some really bad theology that has driven people away from relationship with God. I now realize how I missed the broader picture.
I am so thankful for the body of Christ. Thank you Glenn for pointing this out to me.
Just when I was starting to feel good on the bike. I’m at 1000 miles for the year. Not much by some standards quite a bit by others. For me I’m halfway to my goal for the year.
Just like last year about this time the weather is perfect in the morning until about mid afternoon and then the clouds roll in. Which by itself is not so bad. The lightning however is completely different set of circumstances. We have had 3 people that I know of struck by lightning this year. I don’t want to be the 4th.
On top of everything else I have been so busy I haven’t been able to ride as much. So my options are too get up in the morning. Not a great option but an option none the less. Or come in a little earlier and take a long lunch. I have been doing that a couple times a week but I rely on at least one or two evenings to get my miles in.
Oh well if it’s that important, and I believe it is for my sanity, then I will have to make time.
In the meantime. My quiet times have been sweet. Though still not as regular and consistent as I would like when I am able to make time they are sweet. I so love the presence of God and His still small voice. The Word of God is amazing and always timely, always weighty. I am so blessed.
I hope you are able to keep your priorities straight and make time for the one thing that is selfish and feeds you.
Blessings,
A response to A Readers Review of THE SHACK
Mr. Challies,
Thank you for your thoughtful review of THE SHACK. I sincerely appreciate the time and thought you have invested. I believe you are truly trying to help people come to the truth. I appreciate your tone, your principled stand, and your use of scripture to support your points however, I must take exception with some of your conclusions.
My purpose is not to defend THE SHACK rather to address some of the arguments to which I believe THE SHACK is a response. I read the book before I discovered all the controversy and though I have problems with some of the theology it caused me to remember why I chose to be a follower of Christ. I chose to enter into relationship with Him not to be a student of the Bible, be in ministry, to evangelize, or to serve my church. I am engaged in all of those things but I entered into relationship with Him because He loved me, (Galatians 2:20) rescued me from Hell, (Romans 6:23) and promised to be with me always. (Matthew 28:20, Psalm 27:13, Psalm 23)
My biggest issue in your review is you seem to deify the Bible at the expense of relationship with a personal God. Also your assertion we can no longer walk with God in the cool of the day and we are bound by a mediated communication is flatly untrue. God’s heart has always been to reveal Himself to His people (Exodus 19:4) and to talk with them face to face. (Exodus 19:4, 29:46, 19:11) The idea of having a mediator was not God’s idea. It was God’s response to the children of Israel who rejected Him at Mount Sinai. (Exodus 20:19, Deuteronomy 5:28-29) Consider Enoch who never tasted death but walked with God and was no more, (Gen 5:24) because he pleased God. (Hebrews 11:5) Noah walked with God. (Genesis 6:9) Abraham and God spoke personally about Sodom and Gomorrah. (Genesis 18) All through the Old Testament are examples of God reaching out to His people. The people didn’t have to wonder “how can we approach God directly?” God was very clear about it. Over and over He said if you will keep my commandments I will be your God and you will be my people.
Simeon knew by the Holy Spirit he would see the Lord before his death. (Luke 2:25) God spoke to Ananias regarding Saul. (Acts 9:10) John the Apostle communed with God after Jesus’ death. (Revelation 1:10) God has always yearned to reveal Himself in the context of relationship and community. It is the very nature of the Trinity. Knowing God is not simply an intellectual exercise.
It is true the Bible is the complete revelation of God and the standard by which everything must be evaluated. When we think we have “heard from God” either by His specific revelation (the Bible) or His general revelation (His creation) there is a process to help us confirm our suspicion. It begins with measuring what we perceive we heard or saw with the inerrant word of God. Then we confirm our conclusion by asking the question. “Does my conclusion reflect the character and nature of God?” or “what part of God’s nature does my conclusion reflect?”
It is true our sin separates us from God but when we appropriate, by faith, Jesus final sacrifice (Romans 6:10) we are able to come boldly to the throne of grace (Hebrews 4:16). Jesus became sin so that you and I may be the righteousness of God. (II Corinthians 5:21) You are correct, the new covenant mediator is Jesus however, you misrepresent Jesus role as mediator. He is the Word of God (John 1:1) and He (the Bible) does not separate us from relationship with the father rather he reconciles us to the Father (II Corinthians 5:18). We don’t approach “despite” our sin but because Jesus mediated the new covenant on our behalf.
I have no quarrel with your statements regarding the wrath of God. Just be careful not to give an incomplete gospel. There is more to God than His wrath. Before His wrath is meted out He pursues us passionately (James 3:5, Jeremiah 7:13, 25) and will go to extreme measures to draw us to Himself. (Matt 18:12, Numbers 22)
My final comment relates to suffering. As much as John Piper is correct, it is an incomplete answer and does not reflect the character and nature of God. John Piper seems to say God causes, or allows, suffering to glorify Himself which is utterly absurd. Suffering is part of the curse. (Deuteronomy 28) Though God can be glorified in it, suffering exists because the world is still in a fallen state and Satan is still loose deceiving men. It is the presence of sin that causes suffering. Until believers stop playing church (Isaiah 29:13) and take the stewardship of the kingdom of heaven on earth seriously suffering will increase. It is not because God wants to glorify Himself or because He is not engaged. He accomplished everything on the cross and restored the kingdom on earth. There is nothing left for Him to do (2 Peter 1:3) it is now in our hands (the church). We have been given responsibility (Psalm 115:16) and authority. (Matthew 28:18-20) The assertion that institutional Christianity, with notable exceptions, has been a stumbling block to intimate fellowship with God and hindered our effectiveness in the world is entirely accurate. Until we embrace Him and walk in obedience to His word (John 14:15) and His voice (John 15:14) we will not establish the kingdom before He returns. When I consider how the church places stumbling blocks in the way of relationship with God, my heart breaks.
Though I have concerns those not grounded in truth will read THE SHACK and not hear the whole truth. I applaud the authors for starting a discussion that believers can capitalize on. We must not judge the authors motives. (Romans 2:16, I Corinthians 4:3-5) I have read their answers to most of the concerns raised and I believe them to be men of good faith. We must engage in principled spirited discussion but we must not attack them. Believers must use this momentum to talk with those who are searching and allow the Spirit of Truth to guide them into all truth (John 16:13).
Thank you for your consideration,
Gary Trobee
Also see:
A Gentle Balance to the “Shack Attack”
Reading in Good Faith
Sorry I’m so full of video and not much substance lately. I am working on a serious post which I hope will be up today sometime.
I saw this last night. It’s amazing and a great illustration of the protection we can expect when we are planted in the church. Hope you enjoy it.
Interesting thought. I don’t totally agree and I don’t totally disagree.
What do you think?
I think Glenn nailed this one. As followers we must give unconditional submission, not unconditional obedience, God gives us permission to disobey for only one reason. As leaders this article is right on the money. Below is Glenn’s conclusion but the whole article is worth a read.
As a new testament leader this should be our guiding principle. The greatest must be the servant of all.
A leader is one who demonstrates God-given authority by serving others and earning their trust.
Your authority comes from God; your leadership comes from trust.
glenn packiam’s blog: A New Kind of Leader: Why We May Have It All Wrong
Sorry I’ve been gone so long.
It’s been a tough couple of weeks and I’m not out of the woods yet. I’ve been afraid to post anything for fear of letting the cat out of the bag. Well the cats all the way out and were moving on.
Sometimes doing the right thing is painful but if we trust God as the source and the substance of all our needs He will look after us. Josh McDowell in his book “Right from Wrong” makes the statement that anything with a long term benefit has a short term cost and anything with a short term benefit has a long term cost. Something to keep in mind when making decisions.
I also believe that if we are faithful stewards of what God has put in our hands He will look after His people. We must always remember that they are His people. Our purpose is to establish the kingdom on earth and when we do that with everyone fulfilling their individual and corporate purpose everything works. Sorry I’ve been a bit vague just know I’m trying to work things out and appreciative of all your prayer and encouragement.
I have been riding. I’ll get back to posting rides soon. Last weekend was my 25 year high school reunion. Got in 75 miles over the weekend and this weekend I am meeting the ninja at 10,000 ft for a ride. I’ll let you now how it goes.
Blessings,