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		<title>Building The Bench</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rick Muchow is the worship pastor at Saddleback in California. I don&#8217;t know much about him and the style at Saddleback is not one I am particularly fond of myself. Today however I became a fan a Rick Muchow. He answers a question from Kelly Gabriele serving in Little River, SC that points up a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Muchow is the worship pastor at Saddleback in California. I don&#8217;t know much about him and the style at Saddleback is not one I am particularly fond of myself. Today however I became a fan a Rick Muchow.</p>
<p>He answers a question from Kelly Gabriele serving in Little River, SC that points up a very common misconception in churches that once we have our ministry teams set were done and we can just operate in our gifts:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our Praise Team is fully stocked  at this time.  What do I do about other musicians and singers who might  be interested?  While I want to reach out to new talent that may be in  our church, at  the same time we have a worshipping, wonderful, dedicated  team with all  the players and singers we need right now. Our service is  growing by  leaps and bounds… we are SO blessed. I think I am afraid  of looking  closed minded and closed hearted toward others who might be  interested  in joining. And if you tell me to start a Praise Choir I’m  going to run  away– that really frightens me! But then again, it may be  time to  “build a bench”–or should I leave well enough alone?</p></blockquote>
<p>Rick hits it out of the park. The bottom line is we are not called to operate in our gift for a season and then hand it off to someone else. As Rick so eloquently and gracefully points out according to Romans 12 when someone has a gift in the church we are to LET THEM use it. Here are his remarks in total:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many  churches would love to have this “problem.” This is a  great time. You  must feel very encouraged. The question here is really  about  stewardship.</p>
<p>Why is God  giving us all this talent? This is a common  predicament for those who  find themselves in a position of great  wealth. Believe it or not, there  are some people who don’t want to  steward great wealth. With it comes  great responsibility. It takes a  lot of work and effort to manage great  resources of any kind.</p>
<p>In my  position as my church’s Worship Leader, I’ve always  thought of myself as  the manager of God’s musical resources within this  church. I take this  responsibility very seriously, realizing that all  these people belong to  God. He created them for a purpose. There is a  fine line between our  perceived needs and the church’s needs. My goal  is to help people  fulfill their place in ministry. I am not familiar  with your exact  situation or season, but I would encourage you to  examine your paradigm  here.</p>
<p>Let’s look  at Romans 12-1:8 (NIV.) Every believer in the  church has a contribution  to make in the body of Christ. Romans 12:1  says, “Therefore, I urge you,  brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to  offer your bodies as living  sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this  is your spiritual act of  worship.” This verse is about the life of  worship and about using our  gifts. Everyone needs to worship with their  life. Part of that worship  is using our gifts for the glory of God, to  fulfill the Great Commission  and the Great Commandment.</p>
<p>Verses 4-5  tell us, “Just as each of us has one body with  many members, and these  members do not all have the same function, so  in Christ we who are many  form one body, and each member belongs to all  the others.”</p>
<p>In verses  6-8, we are told 7 times to “let him.” Starting  with verse 4, “We have  different gifts, according to the grace given  us. If a man’s gift is  prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his  faith. If it is  serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him  teach; if it is  encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing  to the needs of  others, let him give generously; if it is leadership,  let him govern  diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it  cheerfully.”</p>
<p>When I try  to put myself in your place, I think God would be  asking me to “build  the bench.”</p>
<p>Let’s talk  about building the bench. The bench is not the  place where people never  play. The bench is the place where they are  ready to use their gifts at a  moment’s notice. The bench has great  benefits. For the inexperienced  player, the bench allows them to train  with the rest of the team. The  bench also allows the team to share the  load, avoiding burnout and  injury. Finally, the bench provides a sense  of teamwork, community and  family.</p>
<p>Romans 12 is  an example of how God wants us to include  everyone into active service.  God created each of us to use our gifts  for Him. As a leader, our task  is to try to figure out the puzzle and  make a place in which each gifted  person can serve.</p>
<p>If your team  is “full”, here are some ideas. As we teach  Biblical principles of  teamwork, servanthood, and family, we are  reminded that there is a place  for everyone to serve in the ministry of  the church. We willingly let  another person use their gifts even when  it means we have to share  opportunities and responsibilities.</p>
<p>Start a new  service time or form a team who can help other  churches which have a  smaller talent pool than yours does. Increase the  number of people you  use at a given service, for example start an  orchestra or choir. (It’s  not as scary as you might think!) Try a new  rotation that allows more  teams to serve in your existing services, for  example each team serves  every other week while rehearsing every week  with the whole team  together. Another idea is to promote existing team  members to leadership  positions allowing new leadership to take on the  added responsibility  of expanding your team.</p>
<p>How many  musicians do we need at the church? According to  Romans 12, when someone  has a gift in the church we are to LET THEM use  it. It is our  responsibility to create the ministry climate that  allows every member  to incorporate their unique contribution to the  body of Christ. This  approach takes more work up front but is  absolutely worth the  investment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most churches don&#8217;t have this problem and I think the reason is we are not stewarding well that which has been entrusted to us. Those people He has bought with His own blood and given gifts. If we do not steward His resources He will send them to a place where they will be stewarded well.</p>
<p>Thanks Rick.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.encouragingmusic.com/ask_rick_muchow_view.asp?expand=175">EncouragingMusic.Com</a></p>
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		<title>Working Yourself Out of a Job</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just watched a video from a very prominent worship leader, Someone I highly respect. I have been mentored by this person in a lot of ways so I don&#8217;t mean to throw stones at them necessarily. The video started with him saying I have been leading worship at my church for a long time but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched a video from a very prominent worship leader, Someone I highly respect. I have been mentored by this person in a lot of ways so I don&#8217;t mean to throw stones at them necessarily.</p>
<p>The video started with him saying I have been leading worship at my church for a long time but I don&#8217;t want to do it forever so over the last couple of years I&#8217;ve tried to be more purposeful in bringing up the next generation. The video ended with him saying so if your in your 40&#8242;s or 50&#8242;s it&#8217;s time to start raising up the next generation.</p>
<p>This is a mindset in the church that must be broken.</p>
<p>Yes we need to bring up the next generation but as leaders our responsibility is so much broader. If your still doing the same thing in ministry you were doing 5 years ago there may be a  problem. Our job as leaders is to equip the saints for works of service and the edification of the body. We must be not only looking for the next young and upcoming gifting and talent; we must be constantly evaluating those God has entrusted to us regardless of age. Our primary responsibility as leaders is to be the driving force behind allowing those entrusted to us to step into the fullness of their calling. We must not only look to those who are younger but those who have recently come into the family and those who for whatever reason were called 15 years ago but have finally started to walk in obedience to that call. When we look to the &#8220;younger&#8221; generation only we miss out on so much and may be causing a brother to stumble.</p>
<p>The body of Christ must constantly be moving. Search committees are the absolute worst way to fill ministry positions. We must recognize, call out, equip, and release the gifting in those entrusted to us. Not do our job for 20 years and then hand it off to an 18 year old.</p>
<p>Youth is not a qualifier and age is not a dis qualifier it&#8217;s about calling, gifting, character, servanthood, love for the house. Not necessarily in that order.</p>
<p>And finally if your the only one or the one who most often stands on the platform in leadership in any capacity and you&#8217;ve been there more than 5 years it&#8217;s time to start asking yourself some very serious questions.</p>
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		<title>I love my life</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was in college a friend of mine would always pray, &#8220;God You are so big&#8221;, I remember thinking &#8220;That is the understatement of all understatements&#8221; however; I often find myself at a loss for words explaining what He is doing. I find myself in that situation today. Last weekend I had the privilege [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in college a friend of mine would always pray, &#8220;God You are so big&#8221;, I remember thinking &#8220;That is the understatement of all understatements&#8221; however; I often find myself at a loss for words explaining what He is doing.</p>
<p>I find myself in that situation today.</p>
<p>Last weekend I had the privilege of being with some great people in Limon Colorado leading a worship retreat for Life in Christ Church. This is the first time a church has invited the community to join them. As a result we were blessed to have three churches represented. What a blessing to have different levels of musicians, different places in their walk with the Lord, and different traditions of worship. It created a different but very good environment.</p>
<p>We started on Friday night with Repentance and Dieing to self. It set the tone for the whole weekend. God was faithful and set a tone of reverence and expectation.</p>
<p>Saturday morning we began with Real worship, went into the rewards of loyalty by teaching through the book of Ruth, after which we were prepared to go to the centerpiece of the whole weekend, &#8220;walking in intimacy with God&#8221;. What does it mean practically to walk in intimacy with God? I know I&#8217;m supposed to read my bible and pray but there has to be more, and there is. We finished the morning answering the question &#8220;why music?&#8221;. If worship isn&#8217;t about music then why music?</p>
<p>After lunch we began by explaining what it means to be a &#8220;worship leader&#8221; and what is potentially wrong with the titles of &#8220;lead worshiper&#8221; or &#8220;lead follower&#8221;. We finished the heart portion of the day talking about excellence. What is it and can we offer it?</p>
<p>The practical &#8220;how to&#8221; portion began at about 2:00 with the purpose and elements of a worship team. What is the purpose of the choir and each individual element of the team. Where does each instrument fit into the sonic space. My friend Andrew did an excellent job with practical music theory. He starts with where we are rather than taking us back to theory 101 it was great.</p>
<p>After supper we went into planning and delivering a worship set and an actual rehearsal for Sunday morning.</p>
<p>I came home exhausted but energized. Seeing the fruit of God&#8217;s word and some practical application is always amazing.</p>
<p>If you were going to have a retreat what things would you add or subtract? What did I miss?</p>
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		<title>Is Excellence Perfection?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellence is a word we like to throw around especially in Christian circles. My sons old school used it so much it almost had no meaning. It&#8217;s not quite as bad as &#8220;Awesome&#8221; or &#8220;Incredible&#8221; but almost. What does is mean? In regard to performance, our effort, our offering, our worship. We can look at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellence is a word we like to throw around especially in Christian circles. My sons old school used it so much it almost had no meaning. It&#8217;s not quite as bad as &#8220;Awesome&#8221; or &#8220;Incredible&#8221; but almost.</p>
<p>What does is mean? In regard to performance, our effort, our offering, our worship.</p>
<p>We can look at Hillsong, New Life, Willow Creek, or Mars Hill and say it&#8217;s easy for them to offer excellence look what they have. But how can I offer excellence when all I have is an old church piano player and a 13 year old drummer?</p>
<p>Is it possible we have incorrectly linked excellence with perfection?</p>
<p>The dictionary defines &#8220;Excellence&#8221; as:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The quality of being outstanding or extremely good&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So far so good but what is the standard by which we determine what is &#8220;outstanding&#8221; or &#8220;extremely good&#8221;? Is it Darlene Zschesch, Ross Parsley, Chris Tomlin, or is it the music teacher at the high school?</p>
<p>The dictionary defines &#8220;Perfection&#8221; as:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;the condition, state, or quality of being free from all flaws or defects&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Is that something we can offer? Do we have within our capacity or control to bring an offering free from &#8220;all flaws or defects&#8221;?</p>
<p>Vines Concise Dictionary of the Bible gives definitions for each usage of &#8220;excellence&#8221; here are the key words:</p>
<p>Over and above, The surpassing thing, To differ, A throwing beyond, The act of overhanging or the thing which overhangs, More, Greater, Superior by reason of inward worth, Mightiest, Noblest, Best.</p>
<p>When we talk, or think, about worship the word that is coupled with worship most often is &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; or &#8220;offering&#8221;. There are 5 different types of offerings in Leviticus.</p>
<address>Burnt offering, Leviticus 1:3</address>
<address>To show worship, devotion, and ask for forgiveness<br />
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<address>Grain offering, Leviticus 2:1</address>
<address>To give thanks and recognize God as the giver of blessing and provider of good things<br />
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<address>Peace offering, Leviticus 3:1</address>
<address>To ask God for blessing</address>
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<address>Sin offering, Leviticus 4:1-2</address>
<address>To ask forgiveness for a specific unintentional sin or to become clean after becoming unclean</address>
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<address>Guilt offering, Leviticus 5:15, 17-18</address>
<address>To make up for cheating, robbing, or destroying anything belonging to the Lord or to the people</address>
<p>These are all things we do, in whole or in part, when we come to worship. All of these require a sacrifice. All of them except the grain offering require an animal from the herd &#8220;without blemish&#8221;. The grain offering requires &#8220;fine flour&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Without blemish&#8221; can literally be translated &#8220;possessing integrity or truth&#8221;. Integrity is &#8220;the state of being whole or undivided&#8221;.</p>
<p>Consider King David in 1 Chronicles 21. Ornan was willing to give everything for the offering even the animals for the burnt offering. But David&#8217;s reply should cause us to stop and think, verse 24:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I will not take what is yours for the Lord, or offer burnt offerings with that which costs me nothing&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Excellence then is:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;to offer the best I have, something above and beyond or different from the norm, something costly&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What are your thoughts? What am I missing?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ask anyone what they think &#8220;leadership&#8221; is and you will likely get a different answer from almost everyone. You will likely receive the John Maxwell definition most often: &#8220;Leadership is influence &#8211; nothing more, nothing less&#8221; Especially from young Christians. Or you will receive some variation of the following: &#8220;The only definition of a leader [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask anyone what they think &#8220;leadership&#8221; is and you will likely get a different answer from almost everyone.</p>
<p>You will likely receive the <a href="http://www.teal.org.uk/leadership/definition.htm" target="_blank">John Maxwell</a> definition most often:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Leadership is influence &#8211; nothing more, nothing less&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Especially from young Christians. Or you will receive some variation of the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The only definition of a leader is someone who has followers&#8221;, <a href="http://www.teal.org.uk/leadership/definition.htm" target="_blank">Peter Drucker</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The process of social influence in which one person can  enlist the aid and support of others in the accomplishment of a common  task&#8221;, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a>.</p>
<p>The art of motivating a group of people to act towards achieving a  common goal&#8221;, <a href="http://sbinfocanada.about.com/od/leadership/g/leadership.htm" target="_blank">About.com</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Dictionary&#8217;s are absolutely no help at all. <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/leadership" target="_blank">Websters</a> says &#8220;the office or position of a leader&#8221;. Very insightful.</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.hillsong.com/college/default.asp?pid=85" target="_blank">Robert Fergusson</a>, my favorite <a href="http://www2.hillsong.com/college/home.asp" target="_blank">Bible College</a> lecturer gave this definition:</p>
<blockquote><p>True leadership is a God given quality that enables certain individuals to be set over and direct others positively toward both personal development and a common purpose. Either through short term impact or long term investment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not that I have a specific beef with any of these definitions. I like the Wikipedia and About.com definitions the least and Robert Fergussons best.</p>
<p>However I would like to offer a greatly distilled definition. A definition descriptive of Jesus leadership and the definition we should use in the body of Christ.</p>
<p>Biblical leadership is:<strong> </strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Laying down your life for those entrusted to you&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>I will expound on my definition later but again I would like to hear what you think first.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the themes I am seeing around the blogosphere and on posting boards is the idea a worship leaders job is to simply worship. People will either follow or not but it&#8217;s not the responsibility of the worship leader. I couldn&#8217;t disagree more. Though there is some truth to the notion that we can&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the themes I am seeing around the blogosphere and on posting boards is the idea a worship leaders job is to simply worship. People will either follow or not but it&#8217;s not the responsibility of the worship leader.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t disagree more.</p>
<p>Though there is some truth to the notion that we can&#8217;t make people follow and we definitely can&#8217;t make people worship however; the idea that the leaders job is simply to stand and worship in front of people couldn&#8217;t be more wrong.</p>
<p>Our job as leaders begins well before we stand on the platform in front of the congregation. Every situation is different and we need to make sure we are seeking God for what He wants to say to His people. When were in leadership we must consider every revelation or communication from the Lord as to whether it is for us or for the people we are leading.</p>
<p>We must live in the secret place. Seeking Him and His desire for His people. Leading worship is not about choosing 5 songs in the same key or chord family. It&#8217;s not about doing what were, necessarily, comfortable with. It&#8217;s about going to the mountain and hearing God&#8217;s heart for His people.</p>
<p>After spiritual preparation it&#8217;s about preparing your craft. Whether it&#8217;s an instrument, your vocal, a video, a congregational reading, or whatever we must prepare ourselves. Remember we must be about excellence not perfection. Excellence is about offering our best not being perfect or even the best.</p>
<p>When we show up to the service we should invite the Holy Spirit to ruin our preparation. We should have been listening to Him through our preparation but it is so critical to invite Him to disrupt the service. Make it clear to Him and the worship team that we are going to go with Him wherever He goes.</p>
<p>Finally when we stand on the platform in front of those who Jesus bought with His own blood, those who He loves so much He would rather die than be without, we must engage them. We must draw them into the secret place with us. Not by manipulating emotions but by being genuine, leading them to the throne and then getting out of the way. Having been with Jesus we should know where they are and what He has given us to say to them should connect with them right away.</p>
<p>I understand sometimes it&#8217;s hard work. There is an enemy who knows the power of God&#8217;s people in unity worshiping the living God and is actively at work to disrupt that activity. I am not saying if we follow the right formula everything will work. Sometimes it doesn&#8217;t. But if it doesn&#8217;t it&#8217;s not because we weren&#8217;t prepared and haven&#8217;t done everything within our control to make sure it does work.</p>
<p>Eddie Espinosa says &#8220;worshiping in front of a congregation is like eating a 5 course meal in front of starving people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Leading worship is about going somewhere and taking as many as will come with us. This is not a passive activity but a very engaging, purposeful, passionate activity. We cannot take responsibility for how &#8220;good&#8221; the worship was but we must take responsibility for being prepared and engaging God&#8217;s people.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t embrace false humility in any form but especially when it comes to the responsibility of leading God&#8217;s people in worship.</p>
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		<title>A Touchy Subject</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I want to tackle something that has been on my heart and mind for a long time but haven&#8217;t really known how to approach it because I know what the response will be from some. Before I begin please understand I believe evangelism to be the responsibility of every believer. Having said that I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I want to tackle something that has been on my heart and mind for a long time but haven&#8217;t really known how to approach it because I know what the response will be from some.</p>
<p>Before I begin please understand I believe evangelism to be the responsibility of every believer. Having said that I don&#8217;t believe we are all evangelists. We should all be ready to answer anyone who asks about the hope we possess. The primary way we cause people to ask is to &#8220;Set Christ apart as Lord in our hearts&#8221; and when we are asked we must answer &#8220;with courtesy and respect, keeping a good conscience&#8221; 1 Peter 3:15-16.</p>
<p>With that preface here is my premise:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We have emphasized evangelism at the cost of making disciples.</p>
<p>We have all heard the &#8220;great commission&#8221; so many times we can recite it verbatim. Or can we? We know the part about &#8220;go&#8221;. but do we know the whole passage, Matthew 28:18-20, and the context?</p>
<p>Jesus did say go but the last thing He said was not go but wait. That&#8217;s right wait. Jesus last words are not recorded in Matthew 28, they are recorded in Acts 1.</p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;While he (Jesus) was with them (the apostles), he declared, &#8220;Do not leave Jerusalem, but </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">wait</span><span style="font-style: italic;"> there for what my Father promised, which you heard about from me.&#8221; Acts 1:4</span></div>
<p>Why wait? times a wastin! people are going to hell! the devil isn&#8217;t waiting!!!</p>
<p>Jesus gives the reason in both Mathew 28 and Acts 1.</p>
<p>Matthew 28:18, Jesus said &#8220;all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me&#8221;, 20 &#8220;and lo, I am with you always.<br />
Acts 1:8 &#8220;But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you&#8221;</p>
<p>Have we so overemphasized evangelism that we have actually hindered the work of evangelism?</p>
<p>One of my favorite authors and preachers A.W. Tozer suggests that may be the case. In his devotional he states:</p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;The popular notion that the first obligation of the church is to spread the gospel to the uttermost parts of the earth is false. Her first obligation is to be spiritually worthy to spread it.&#8221;</span></div>
<p>When we go out of obligation and of our own strength believing we must &#8220;go&#8221; we can spread a &#8220;degenerate brand of Christianity to pagan lands&#8221; which does not fulfill the command of Christ. He never said make converts He said &#8220;make disciples&#8221; and a disciple who has &#8220;set Christ apart as Lord in his heart&#8221; will evoke the question, &#8220;what is it about you?&#8221; and that same person will be able to answer &#8220;with courtesy and respect, keeping a good conscience&#8221;.</p>
<p>Again please don&#8217;t misunderstand. There may be a place for the person at the mall passing out tracks. however if all of us were setting Christ apart in our hearts and communication with those entrusted to us with courtesy and respect how much more effective would we be making disciples?</p>
<p>I also believe if we are all walking in the fullness of our calling, being who God has called and created us to be, the church would grow. Ephesians 4:15-16 says as much:<br />
<br style="font-style: italic;" /></p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-style: italic;">When we all grow up in &#8220;Christ who is the head from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according the the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.&#8221;</span></div>
<p>Paraphrase: When we are all walking in the fullness of our gifts and calling <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the church will grow</span>.</p>
<p>A.W. Tozer points out Jesus chilling words in Matthew 23:15:</p>
<p>&#8220;Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are we living our lives in such a way we can say &#8220;follow me as I follow Christ&#8221;? I know I could grow in that area. Please pray with me for the church to get a revelation of her primary purpose.</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
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		<title>Are We Asking The Right Questions?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last several months I have been involved in conversations on blogs and forums surrounding all things related to the corporate worship service and the teams of people who facilitate our corporate worship experience. The conversations are about everything from style, to heart, to practical aspects related to worship in the church. I hear [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last several months I have been involved in conversations on blogs and forums surrounding all things related to the corporate worship service and the teams of people who facilitate our corporate worship experience.</p>
<p>The conversations are about everything from style, to heart, to practical aspects related to worship in the church. I hear the hearts cry from these leaders and team members and believe the motivation, for the most part, is good. They genuinely want to create an environment where the people of God can come together without distraction and enter into the presence of God with the community of believers they have chosen to identify with. </p>
<p>Today I ran across a conversation entitled &#8220;The Ideal Band Member&#8221;. I eagerly clicked the link thinking we were going to talk about the type of person we are looking for to be on our worship team. Someone who possesses a servants heart, a lover of God and His word. Someone who will lay down their life for the Bride of Christ, not positioning themselves for something bigger and better but sincerely serving the house. And oh by the way they are skillful. I was disappointed. </p>
<p>The conversation was about instrumentation. &#8220;We have two guitars, a bass, a drummer, and two keyboard players what should we be trying to add next?&#8221;</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t misunderstand. This is not an invalid or unimportant conversation. If our goal is excellence this is a valid stream however; in the context of the last several months it made me wonder if we are really asking the right questions.</p>
<p>What is our purpose as leaders in the church in general and worship leaders specifically? </p>
<p>I remember receiving an email telling me I would not be asked to be a part of the worship team because the pastor wanted a cohesive group of musicians. And since I was an unknown they were going to choose people who they knew could deliver. I wanted to scream &#8220;our purpose is not to build a cohesive group&#8221;. Now if my skillset is not at an acceptable level fair enough but if the reason I am not invited is so you can have a &#8220;cohesive group&#8221; there may be a misunderstanding of our purpose. </p>
<p>Our purpose is first the equipping of the saints, and second to operate in our gifts. This is the order were given in Ephesians 4:12</p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;">&#8220;the equipping of the saints for works of service&#8221;&nbsp; is first and then;<br />
&#8220;the edification of the body&#8221;
</div>
<p>I have much more to say on that topic but for now I&#8217;ll leave it there.</p>
<p>Certainly when we stand on the platform we must be invisible. Actually transparent is a better word and the best way to do that is to be excellent. Not perfect but excellent. Excellence is giving the best you have which is much different than perfection. This is not an either or proposition. We can, and must, accomplish both. It was God&#8217;s idea and He can certainly give us the wisdom to accomplish it in our context. But if were not even asking the question we are grossly missing the point.</p>
<p>If we are faithful with the faithfulness entrusted to us God will give the increase and bring the right instruments/musicians or whatever we need at the right time. People are our purpose and we must never lose sight of that priority. </p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Feed and shepherd God’s flock—his church, purchased with his own blood—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as elders. Acts 20:28</span></div>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.0866in; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">I love the Bride, the Church, the coming together of the saints of God to worship and hear the Word of God proclaimed. I love the fellowship aspect of Church. I love the community aspect of Church. I love every aspect of Church and&nbsp; I am convinced God does as well.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">So if you, like me, see problems with the Bride is your heart in a place where you can speak the truth in love? Make sure before you start suggesting a &#8220;fix&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Outsourced Worship?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning I ran across a case study of the very point I am trying to make regarding the church being increasingly run by the doers rather than equippers. A Church in Hattiesburg MS. has decided to outsource it&#8217;s worship by hiring multiple worship leaders to come in on a rotating basis to lead worship. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning I ran across a case study of the very point I am trying to make regarding the church being increasingly run by the doers rather than equippers. </p>
<p>A Church in Hattiesburg MS. has decided to outsource it&#8217;s worship by hiring multiple worship leaders to come in on a rotating basis to lead worship. Here are the advantages he lists:</p>
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Jeff says this strategy offers several advantages:
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<li>Many worship leaders don&#8217;t enjoy building teams, managing budgets or organizing departments. They just love to lead worship. This strategy let&#8217;s them stay in their sweet spot.    </li>
<li>This decision saves money for the church. He is able to pay them really well for a weekend and still save enough money in the church budget to use toward another staff position.    </li>
<li>They love the variety that this brings to their church. Keeping things unpredictable is a plus, says Jeff, to keeping people&#8217;s attention.    </li>
<li>They have learned so much from these worship leaders that they wouldn&#8217;t have learned from one person.<cite cite="http://www.leadingsmart.com/leadingsmart/2009/11/outsourced-worship.html#comment-6a00d834518be669e20128757b3204970c"></cite></li>
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<p><cite cite="http://www.leadingsmart.com/leadingsmart/2009/11/outsourced-worship.html#comment-6a00d834518be669e20128757b3204970c"><a href="http://www.leadingsmart.com/leadingsmart/2009/11/outsourced-worship.html#comment-6a00d834518be669e20128757b3204970c">LeadingSmart: Outsourced Worship</a></cite></p>
<p>What I see happening in the church is it is increasingly run by the doers not the equippers (Ephesians 4:11-12).
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<p>The very first benefit Jeff lists proves the point. They are looking for a gifted worship leader rather than an equipper to be the pastor/leader. What they need is someone who can recognize, call out, equip, and release the gifting of those entrusted to him or her.
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<p>Someone there is doing the administration the difference is they should be raising up worship leaders in their body not from unplanted gifted people who have no real relationship with the congregation.
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<p>The best doers are rarely the best equippers. Those who are gifted to lead worship are rarely the best at leading people, teams, and organizations. </p>
<p>We need to make the equippers the pastors and leaders so they can release the doers to do.</p>
<p>The church in America has missed the point a bit. What would your church look like if it were run by equippers and everyone was walking in the fullness of their calling. </p>
<p>Every need in the church can be met in the church. Nowhere in scripture is anything ever outsourced. In acts 6:3 they didn&#8217;t go looking for recent graduates from Bible college or Seminary they chose from among them.</p>
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